B-Rock

I will be using this blog for both my second life diary and my reading responses.  I will be tagging each post with either "secondlife" or "readings" so that it's easy to find either.  

Cultural Poesis/Ordinary Affects

Encounters

My encounters on SL about machinima have been positive.  I noticed that it’s been really helpful to talk to anyone about it.  A lot of the avatars I talk to I heard about from other people in machinima groups or through a person that I talked to casually on SL who referred me to a site or an avatar  because they knew that I was researching the topic.  I noticed that the machinima chat groups have been really informative for answering basic questions about machinima/technical questions.  Since I am new to the programs used and the techniques it has been really great to spark a conversation and have the avatars  that are online/interested partake.  Everyone is doing something different!  Some people do machinima for fun on SL, others own production companies in RL and do it with a collective, other people use it for education, etc...

I have been really happy to talk to HVX SILVERSTAR who is based out of UCD…I hope to continue a relationship with her on SL and volunteer at the machinima institute.  I like that she is using machinima within the academic sphere.  She mentioned intellectual  property rights and how filmmakers can retain them in SL.  Her interest in live broadcasting which could possibly relate to the tool that I proposed for the class.  She mentioned service learning proposals out of San Jose state University which I would like to find out more about.  HVX’s SL work interests me because it spills into RL through grants and the work that she does as a teacher.  

I started out wanting to learn about machinima from a practicing filmmaker.  My focus seems to have shifted into the machinima institute and the work that HVX has described.  I would also like to find a way to promote the institute.  I feel like some audiences that are involved with machinima do not know that it exists.  Initially I wanted to get on a production team but I noticed that production on SL is hard to get into.  People seem to do it alone and not have an entourage like RL.  Well…I guess that’s not always true…I shoot alone usually but I was expecting to be able to jump into it and just get on a team.  Not finding many teams/rigorous shooting schedules on SL.  Still messaging people and still trying to keep my options open.  Instead I think my participation could be as a volunteer at the machinima institute.  I want to look into it…

Also talked to Dash and might submit a RL film just because to see how that works in the world of SL. Not sure if this will help in my research but it might down the road   

Also…I also want to find some texts to use for my analysis dealing with “communities of practice”/maybe texts dealing with online education.  Still trying to refine everything but my interest/research has definitely shifted since last month.  I feel like i'm starting to engage in something that is interesting and refined. 

Link to the log from the intro machinima class on 11.10

http://sleeds.org/chatlog/?c=174

Lots of interesting stuff happening this month.  Met HVX Silverstar and she has talked with me about various things that peak my interest. 

11.7

[19:05]  Mirra Fredriksson: hey dash do you remember me?
[19:06]  Dash Renoir: hi
[19:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: we  talked about machinima once
[19:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: i'm a researcher
[19:06]  Dash Renoir: yes
[19:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: how does one submit work to mmac?
[19:07]  Dash Renoir: i have an open booking policy
[19:07]  Dash Renoir: i accept shorts anytime
[19:07]  Dash Renoir: just need a quicktime file or link to downloadable at file....
[19:08]  Dash Renoir: prefer  15fps 352x240 rez
[19:08]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool. do you decide when it plays?
[19:09]  Dash Renoir: yes
[19:09]  Dash Renoir: it's usually put in cinema SL for on demand viewing & similarly @ www.TheFilmLink.com
[19:10]  Mirra Fredriksson: what is cinema sl a venue? and how long does it stay up?
[19:11]  Dash Renoir: yes The Film Link Screening Room cinema in on the second level in the MMAC
[19:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: are there any night dedicated to shorts?
[19:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: that you know of....or dedicated to machinima
[19:12]  Dash Renoir: there is shorts discussion event on wednesdays
[19:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: at MMAC?
[19:13]  Dash Renoir: yes ...
[19:13]  Dash Renoir: excuse for a few...
[19:13]  Dash Renoir: need to do some show chores
[19:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok
[19:28]  Mirra Fredriksson: dash dont waant to bother you but where can i send the quicktime when i get it together
[19:28]  Dash Renoir: submits@TheFilmLink.com
[19:30]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok thanks...we will talk soon

[[19:13]  Geuis Dassin: hey guys, quick thing if you use the 3DConnexion space navigator. If you have any problems with it behaving erratically, update your drivers and reboot. Recalbrate the controller too.
[19:14]  Mirra Fredriksson: hey geuis do you know of any machinima events in sl?
[19:15]  Mirra Fredriksson: or does anyone?
[19:15]  Agnesa Capalini: HVX Silverstar is giving a beginning machinima class this Saturday, 10am-12 SL time
[19:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh cool agnesa...can you IM me with the info?
[19:16]  Geuis Dassin: none that I know, but ask Moo Money. She's definitely on top of that
[19:17]  Mirra Fredriksson: thanks geuis
[19:20]  Agnesa Capalini: Mirra, its going to be located at the Machinima Institute, ALA Arts In, Infoisland  (217,178'
[19:21]  Mirra Fredriksson: thanks agnesa.  do i have to sign up?
[19:21]  Agnesa Capalini: I don't think you have to sign up, but she may want to make sure you have what's necessary load on your PC
[19:23]  Agnesa Capalini: hello Mirra, are you there?
[19:23]  Mirra Fredriksson: i have a mac does that matter?
[19:24]  Agnesa Capalini: my pc keeps giving me error messages ...hope you are hearing me
[19:24]  Mirra Fredriksson: me too
[19:25]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you do machinima?
[19:25]  Agnesa Capalini: I'm just starting to learn
[19:26]  Mirra Fredriksson: very cool
[19:26]  Geuis Dassin: anyone have a technical explanation for what direct zoom in the flycam is doing to the camera?
[19:26]  Robertz Sparrow: I've been doing Machinima for 5 years!, always good fun
[19:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: wow robertz thats a long time ...i am researching it trying to look more...
[19:27]  Geuis Dassin: rob, what platform did you get started in?
[19:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: good question
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: Ah cool, i started around when medal of honour came
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: then bf1942
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: going with Rooster teeth to the game convention PAX in seatle next year to promote Machinima there
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: setting up a panel
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: just been to the Machinima Awards, which was excellent!
[19:29]  Geuis Dassin: I just got my nomination letter in the mail yesterday
[19:29]  Geuis Dassin: didnt even know they were sending one.
[19:29]  Agnesa Capalini: wonderful
[19:29]  Robertz Sparrow: for what comp?
[19:29]  Geuis Dassin: You Hypocrite You
[19:29]  Mirra Fredriksson: robertz would you say machinima is really active here?
[19:30]  Robertz Sparrow: Not as much as it could be
[19:30]  Geuis Dassin: was up for the commercial category
[19:30]  Robertz Sparrow: example is the machinima section of the fourms
[19:30]  Mirra Fredriksson: was it ever?
[19:31]  Robertz Sparrow: i've not been in SL from the begining to say how it used to be
[19:31]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok
[19:31]  Robertz Sparrow: i film in other games atm - www.litfusefilms.com - if you want to have a look or if it helps in your report
[19:32]  Robertz Sparrow: SL atm i find a tad laggy and hard to film in places
[19:32]  Robertz Sparrow: but i dunno, might be me
[19:32]  Mirra Fredriksson: in all machinima is it never possible for others to see what one is filming?
[19:32]  Agnesa Capalini: no, I don't its you....we
[19:32]  Robertz Sparrow: like live?
[19:32]  Agnesa Capalini: we're all having problems with the lag
[19:33]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea live
[19:33]  Robertz Sparrow: well you can use programs as wirecast
[19:33]  Robertz Sparrow: to broadcast live of what you're viewing on your screen
[19:33]  Robertz Sparrow: but i only see the point of that for live news or interviews
[19:33]  Agnesa Capalini: does it cost a lot
[19:34]  Mirra Fredriksson: where does it broadcast?
[19:34]  Robertz Sparrow: to a private server you can host/buy
[19:34]  Geuis Dassin: hmm, usually the recording part isn't something most people would find interesting. I find I cut out at least 50-75% of the raw video I capture
[19:34]  Mirra Fredriksson: i think it would be cool to see what people are filming if you are with them on the pot
[19:34]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah, i film with fraps, and as Geuis said, most of it is cut out at the final edit
[19:34]  Mirra Fredriksson: like if its a collab
[19:34]  Robertz Sparrow: well you got to take in lag
[19:35]  Robertz Sparrow: and programs running in the background
[19:35]  Mirra Fredriksson: spot*
[19:35]  Geuis Dassin: actually mirra, I have a prototype device that lets you share your camera view with others
[19:35]  Geuis Dassin: live
[19:35]  Matthew Kidomen: you say you cut so much percentage, do you story board your videos ahead of time?
[19:35]  Geuis Dassin: its pretty lag-free
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah Matthew
[19:36]  Matthew Kidomen: and you still toss so much.  wow.
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: plan for extras and sets
[19:36]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh thats cool geuis...what is that?
[19:36]  Geuis Dassin: mat, even with a storyboard, alot of the video is start/stops, SL hiccups, etc
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: well some shots can be long or shots you don't really need or errors
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: i work in the film industry in real life
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: is my job
[19:37]  Robertz Sparrow: stuff they scribble off the board is amazing, due to costs/types of shots etc
[19:37]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: Geuis, which drivers, the £DConnexions or the thrid part driver? TO get flycam working in new veiwer?
[19:37]  Robertz Sparrow: same for SL filming really
[19:37]  Geuis Dassin: I dont really have a name for it Mirra. Im thinking of making it into a tour guide type system, but have thought it has filming potentials
[19:37]  Matthew Kidomen: are you able to make joystick mode work?
[19:37]  Geuis Dassin: ram, I was referring to the standard 3d connexion drivers
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: Ok thanks
[19:38]  Mirra Fredriksson: good idea geuis
[19:38]  Geuis Dassin: I dont use the 3rd party drivers
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: oh
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: ?
[19:38]  Geuis Dassin: you mean the 3rd party drivers for the spacenavigator?
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: yes
[19:39]  Geuis Dassin: yeah I dont use them. I get by just fine with the company-supported drivers
[19:39]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: I had to use them to get it work on mine in SL
[19:39]  Geuis Dassin: win or mac?
[19:39]  Matthew Kidomen: Robertz......are you able to make joystick mode work?
[19:39]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you guys show your machinima in sl?
[19:39]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah
[19:39]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: MInd you that was ahile ago maybe i dont need them now either
[19:39]  Robertz Sparrow: i use a 360 style controller
[19:39]  RamessesIII Pharaoh checks the website....
[19:40]  Robertz Sparrow: is a speed link
[19:40]  Matthew Kidomen: I don't know what that is?
[19:40]  Geuis Dassin: hey rob, have you tried the space navigator? I bought it last month on moo's recommendation
[19:41]  Mirra Fredriksson: there should be machinima meetings in sl
[19:41]  Anya Ristow: The new drivers work fine. Two links...
[19:41]  Anya Ristow: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Flycam
[19:41]  Robertz Sparrow: no, what im using is perfect
[19:41]  Anya Ristow: http://teneverse.blogspot.com/2007/07/blog-post.html
[19:41]  Robertz Sparrow: i'm using this for flycam -
[19:41]  Robertz Sparrow: http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3507653/Speed-Link-XBOX-360-Style-USB-Gamepad-For-Windows-With-Force-Vibration-Black/Product.html#
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: been really good
[19:42]  Geuis Dassin: nice. can't beat it for 15 pounds
[19:42]  Matthew Kidomen: looking now
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: aye, free delivery!
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: bish bash bosh
[19:42]  Matthew Kidomen: game pad
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: yep
[19:42]  Geuis Dassin: Ive been designing a flycam recorder too here in SL
[19:42]  Matthew Kidomen: wow, I have this massive joy stick
[19:42]  Geuis Dassin: it 95% works, just been ironing bugs out of the playback
[19:43]  Matthew Kidomen: but canot get it to work
[19:43]  Robertz Sparrow: lol matt
[19:43]  Robertz Sparrow: Don't u use Fraps Geuis?
[19:43]  Geuis Dassin: sure do
[19:43]  Robertz Sparrow: aye
[19:43]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: That would be good like a stored flight path
[19:43]  Matthew Kidomen: live and learn.  I guess the is the point of a Machinimatographers group
[19:44]  Mirra Fredriksson: would any of you guys mind if I IMed you to ask questions while i'm researching?
[19:44]  Geuis Dassin: yeah Ram. lots more flexibility than the existing Filming Path system
[19:44]  Robertz Sparrow: Sure Mirra
[19:44]  Geuis Dassin: who you writing for mirra?
[19:44]  Mirra Fredriksson: thanks robertz
[19:45]  Geuis Dassin: robertz, you involved in the Civil Protection series, or is that a separate HL2 project from what you are doing?
[19:45]  Mirra Fredriksson: no one im a graduate student in new york...i study film and video in rl and wanted to research this for a class im taking called autoethnography
[19:46]  Matthew Kidomen: I wonder if my playstation controller will work?
[19:46]  Matthew Kidomen: it is USB I think
[19:46]  Robertz Sparrow: That's a separate hl2 project, we do Combine Nation
[19:46]  Robertz Sparrow: was asked to to the G-Man voices for it thou! lol
[19:46]  Robertz Sparrow: for CP
[19:46]  Geuis Dassin: interesting. autoethnology(looking up)
[19:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: not ethnology ethnography
[19:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea super interesting
[19:47]  Geuis Dassin: I need to take some time later to watch your work
[19:47]  Mirra Fredriksson: its a form of research anthropology based
[19:47]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you guys have work online?
[19:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: im thinking of showing my rl video work in sl...haven't made machinima yet
[19:48]  Geuis Dassin: some of my previous films from early this year, http://mannea.blip.tv
[19:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: i will look them up
[19:51]  Mirra Fredriksson: this is lagging geuis
[19:51]  Robertz Sparrow: I'm off lads and lasses
[19:51]  Robertz Sparrow: take care all
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: later rob
[19:51]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: OK, does anybody know of a camera tool that will switch between different avatars viewpoints , preferably using shortcut keys?
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: whats laggin?
[19:51]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye robertz~
[19:51]  Robertz Sparrow: bye
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: haha ram, lemme drop you another thiing Ive been working on
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: Ive been busy recently =)
[19:51]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: You have thought of everything
[19:52]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: It seems
[19:52]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea geuis!
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: ooh new toy.....
[19:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: Ram you have a mac or pc?
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: PC
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: well both
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: but mainly PC
[19:54]  Mirra Fredriksson: i wonder which is  better
[19:54]  Mirra Fredriksson: i have a mac
[19:58]  Matthew Kidomen: I just watched the Ignis Solus Machinima on YouTube.  It was listed as "poor quality" video.  It looked great.
[19:59]  Matthew Kidomen: The editing was good, and the graphics wonderful, story line was thin.  Still well done.
[19:59]  Moriz Gupte: url/
[19:59]  Moriz Gupte: url?
[20:00]  Matthew Kidomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_aGQyFETU
[20:00]  Geuis Dassin: watch the Divx version. you'll see the difference
[20:00]  Matthew Kidomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_aGQyFETU
[20:00]  Moriz Gupte: thanks
[20:01]  Matthew Kidomen: the Dvix version is ......better?
[20:02]  Geuis Dassin: a preschool drawing of the Mona Lisa done in yellow and red crayon and covered in glitter and elmer's glue would be a better version than Youtube
[20:02]  Matthew Kidomen: What do you use to make the mouth move to match the words in "Combin Nation: Do your part."
[20:03]  Geuis Dassin: robert left
[20:03]  Matthew Kidomen: Is that Robert's work?
[20:03]  Geuis Dassin: combine nation is, from what he said
[20:04]  Matthew Kidomen: I wonder what he uses to capture his video?
[20:04]  Geuis Dassin: fraps
[20:04]  Matthew Kidomen: Fraps works very well.
[20:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: does anyone use snapzpro is that bad?
[20:07]  Geuis Dassin: thats one of the recommended programs for macs
[20:07]  Geuis Dassin: FRAPS is windows
[20:08]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh ok

[19:56]  Mirra Fredriksson: where do you hang out on sl?
[19:59]  Geuis Dassin: I generally just stay at my store area and build things
[19:59]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh cool you have a store?
[20:00]  Mirra Fredriksson: building seems interesting
[20:05]  Mirra Fredriksson: geuis do you sell stuff at your store?
[20:06]  Geuis Dassin: yah
[20:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: what kinds of stuff
[20:09]  Mirra Fredriksson: i just TPed there...what is this? haha
[20:09]  Geuis Dassin: hmm?
[20:09]  Geuis Dassin: variety of things
[20:09]  Geuis Dassin: filming path is one of the main machinima tools most people use
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: camtp is a teleport toy
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: applause box is used for live events, so crowds can appaluse just by clicking. you can try the demo
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: boo box does the same thing, but for booing, beacon sends an slurl to someone by just saying their name
[20:10]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool stuff
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: some eyewear I made, doesnt sell well
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: what does filming path do
[20:11]  Geuis Dassin: and Motor Mouth is my most recent device, which listens to SLvoice and makes the avatar talk
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: hahah
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool
[20:11]  Geuis Dassin: filming path is a camera dolly system
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: i dont really like the slvoice thing it freaks me out
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: it feels strange to hear peoples voices
[20:12]  Geuis Dassin: if you watch the video there, that was a music video I made that was nominated at the european machinima festival
[20:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh cool!
[20:12]  Geuis Dassin: it uses filming path for certain camera moves
[20:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: i will watch it
[20:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: maybe i can meet your av?
[20:14]  Mirra Fredriksson: who is this band?
[20:16]  Geuis Dassin: its an Atlanta, GA band called What the ???
[20:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: was this filmed in sl?
[20:16]  Geuis Dassin: yep
[20:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: its great
[20:17]  Mirra Fredriksson: you must do video in rl
[20:18]  Geuis Dassin: actually, I am a web designer
[20:18]  Geuis Dassin: doing video is only amature
[20:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: someone just came in here and then left
[20:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: lol
[20:18]  Geuis Dassin: yeah, that happens
[20:19]  Mirra Fredriksson: when did you make that?
[20:19]  Geuis Dassin: april I think
[20:19]  Mirra Fredriksson: how long have you been doing this stuff?
[20:19]  Geuis Dassin: about a year
[20:22]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you mind if i ask how old you are?
[20:22]  Mirra Fredriksson: im 26
[20:22]  Geuis Dassin: 27
[20:22]  Mirra Fredriksson: it seems like all age ranges do machinima
[20:24]  Geuis Dassin: yah
[20:26]  Mirra Fredriksson: well thanks for chatting with me...maybe next time we can chat in "person"
[20:27]  Geuis Dassin: sure
[20:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool i'll IM you soon once i brush up on basic stuff lol
[20:27]  Geuis Dassin: sure thing
[20:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye geuis

11.9

[12:40]  Mirra Fredriksson: Hi I heard that you are giving a machinima class tomorrow and I am interested in coming...Can you give me more info?
[12:40]  HVX Silverstar: Hi there... yes
[12:40]  Mirra Fredriksson: Sorry was't sure if you are online...i'm Mirra a graduate student in New York and i'm researching machinima in SL
[12:40]  HVX Silverstar: ALA Arts InfoIsland, Machinima Institute 179/150/31/ WHAT? Introduction to Machinima Session - Hands-on Using the built-in file   start/stop movie to disk. We will be trying out the keyboard shortcuts and using the camera tool to set up and  shoot short video clips. WHEN? Saturday, Nov. 10, 10:00 - 11:30 AM SLT WHERE? ALA Arts InfoIsland - 179, 150, 31 WHAT DO I NEED: SOFTWARE? You will need to have the latest version of Quicktime Player loaded on your computer: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/
[12:41]  Mirra Fredriksson: Thank you
[12:41]  Mirra Fredriksson: I heard the built in machinima doesn't work...is that true?  I was going to dl snapzpro...
[12:41]  HVX Silverstar: it will be basic... everyone trying to capture a clip using browser shortcuts etc
[12:42]  HVX Silverstar: I gave you a notecard too
[12:42]  Mirra Fredriksson: yes got the notecard...what exactly is the machinima institute?
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: it's a place that is on one of the Second Life Library partner islands.. I am one of the librarians and i provide intro sessions on machnima and teach for the Univ. of Il Urbana Champagne virtual world librarianship class.. so it is basic
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: Are you an educator or librarian?
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: You don't have to be.. just wondering. It's open to the public as all library services are here
[12:44]  Mirra Fredriksson: I am a student at The New School University
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: I am looking for volunteers if you are interested
[12:45]  HVX Silverstar: is that in NY?  the music school?
[12:45]  Mirra Fredriksson: It is in New York it's comprised of 7 schools the jazz school is one
[12:46]  HVX Silverstar: cool... I knew one of the students last year.. I think he has transferred.. Colin Borges from Davis, CA.. jazz saxophone
[12:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: Oh yes I see that your based in Davis
[12:46]  HVX Silverstar: my daughter was in the Davis High Jazz Band for years and now studies trombone at UCLA
[12:46]  HVX Silverstar: yea
[12:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: I am acturally from Northern California
[12:47]  HVX Silverstar: very cool.. we may know some people in common.. do you know Sam Dickey or David Okeefe (Berklee School)
[12:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: know im not a musician hvx just an enthusiast.  I am in the video and film department at New School.
[12:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: :)
[12:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: no*
[12:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: media studies major
[12:49]  HVX Silverstar: so cool.. you are welcome to come to the class and help out in any way... could use filmmakers to do instruction here.. there is such an interest
[12:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: i would love to help out
[12:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: i am very new to machinima
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: I am self-taught and it fell out of video I did for the Davis Bands (on google video)
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: great...
[12:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: very interested though
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: I am on a lot of the time, otherwise I am on the teen grid
[12:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you think that machinima is big in SL?  Some people I talked to said it could be more active...
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: Huge
[12:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: thats good to know
[12:51]  HVX Silverstar: well, people are using the space to create films due to the intellectual property rights - filmmakers  can retain them whereas they can't in many game spaces
[12:51]  HVX Silverstar: It could be way more prominant...
[12:52]  HVX Silverstar: I am interested in live broadcasting and will use it in that way ... coming up
[12:52]  Mirra Fredriksson: very interesting
[12:52]  HVX Silverstar: I will be applying for a grant to help with it
[12:52]  Mirra Fredriksson: i would like to hear more about it
[12:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: and i will come on saturday
[12:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: but is that true about the built in machinima?  could i use snapzpro?
[12:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: im on a mac
[12:54]  HVX Silverstar: I have about 4 service learning project proposals out to the San Jose State Univ Grad School of Library Science... so you can work on something similar if you are interested..
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: I can talk to you about it on the weekend..
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: i'm at work now and have to run....
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: Our univ is not involved in SL except for capturing 2D images for marketing, etc
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: ha
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: too bad
[12:55]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok no problem...I will come on Saturday and help out if I can and we can talk then
[12:56]  HVX Silverstar: Sounds good..
[12:56]  HVX Silverstar: bye
[12:56]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye and thanks

11.11

[12:10]  Mirra Fredriksson: Hi Robertz...do you have a link to your machinima?
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: Hi
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: www.litfusefilms.com
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: then movies
[12:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: is this your website?
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: yes
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: My name is Robert Stoneman
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: in rl
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: and on site
[12:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: are you American?
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: We are a group of Machinima makers, i have a team
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: no English
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: UK
[12:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: London?
[12:13]  Robertz Sparrow: Near yes
[12:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: are you making anything now?
[12:13]  Robertz Sparrow: Machinima wise? yes
[12:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: can you share
[12:14]  Robertz Sparrow: Why
[12:14]  Mirra Fredriksson: im just curious as to what its about
[12:14]  Robertz Sparrow: ah, filming an advert for BNT holdings then doing a short film in sl
[12:14]  Robertz Sparrow: just location/prop hunting now
[12:15]  Mirra Fredriksson: when do you think you will shoot in sl?
[12:15]  Robertz Sparrow: I'm not sure yet, depends
[12:15]  Mirra Fredriksson: im trying to find people that shoot in SL and asking them if I can just watch...even any of the pre-production aspect
[12:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: have you been to the machinima institute?
[12:16]  Robertz Sparrow: in sl?
[12:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea
[12:17]  Robertz Sparrow: no
[12:17]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you talk to many other machinima people on here?
[12:17]  Robertz Sparrow: ye
[12:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you know HVX?
[12:18]  Robertz Sparrow: that a nick name?
[12:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: the avatar name
[12:18]  Robertz Sparrow: no
[12:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: she's interesting....she did a basic machinima class yesterday but she is a librarian in RL and uses machinima in that way...
[12:19]  Robertz Sparrow: nice

11.12

[20:22]  HVX Silverstar: (Saved Mon Nov 12 13:00:04 2007) Hi Mirra.. yes, I will be on today in case you are around.  We can chat as I am doing things.. have to move the Machinima Institute to a new location.
[20:25]  Mirra Fredriksson: HVX thanks for the group mail...the log looks amazing!
[20:27]  HVX Silverstar: HVX Silverstar: Oh, you are welcome... it was so hard to read so i thought i would try something different... I see that i missed a lot of comments.. so hard to get them all
[20:28]  Mirra Fredriksson: it is but you did a great job.  wish i didn't crash.  i kind of got lost for a second.  Where are you moving the institute?
[20:29]  HVX Silverstar: well, i'm here now at Eduisland 208, 55, 23.. but it's so laggy that i have asked for another location.. so it may end up on cybrary city
[20:29]  Mirra Fredriksson: if you need any help or anything let me know
[20:30]  Mirra Fredriksson: i have been talking to some people about machinima...some don't know about the institute...is it new?
[20:30]  HVX Silverstar: yes, whenever you see me on, you can just come over and help... i'm going to eat dinner with my husband right now, but then i'll be back.
[20:31]  HVX Silverstar: no, it has been around since about March last year.. I used to do classes April, June...
[20:31]  HVX Silverstar: and then supervised the san jose state univ service learning projects for the Lib246 Master in Library Science program.... so we ended up with some great exhibits
[20:32]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok if i see you when you get back we will chat
[20:33]  Mirra Fredriksson: im on frequently and i have a blog and i'm going to present at my school in december...and i'm going to let people know abou tthe institute (or i have)
[20:34]  HVX Silverstar: cool, so you can be a volunteer (like me) and you'll have more to present... very cool.. it's like a job at least in terms of gaining experienc e in other areas...
[20:34]  HVX Silverstar: I have purchased a live video feed.. a lot of money... and will be playing with it soon... veodia professional account
[20:35]  HVX Silverstar: i will be trying to get a grant to subsidize it.. so i'll let you know how it goes
[20:35]  Mirra Fredriksson: wow sounds exciting...please do and if you have any office hours tomorrow or wed i would like to talk av to av haha
[20:36]  HVX Silverstar: yes, i am usually on in the evenings about 7-10 PDT
[20:36]  HVX Silverstar: PM
[20:36]  HVX Silverstar: not all the time though.. as i have a family.. ha
[20:37]  HVX Silverstar: talk to you soon
[20:37]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye

Relevant machinima chats that have assisted in my research of the culture. 

9.25

21:54]  Dash Renoir: Welcome to the MMAC
[21:54]  You: this place is cool
[21:54]  Dash Renoir: thanks
[21:55]  You: i just found it
[21:55]  You: thanks
[21:55]  Dash Renoir: check out http://www.TheMMAC.net for more info
[21:55]  You: do you make films?
[21:56]  Dash Renoir: yes
[21:56]  You: using machinima?
[21:56]  Dash Renoir: not yet
[21:56]  You: my whole class and i heard others are having this problem...but when they use machinima lately SL crashes...
[21:57]  Dash Renoir: while shooting?
[21:57]  You: or when shooting begins
[21:58]  You: do you know any filmmakers using machinima?
[21:58]  Dash Renoir: not really .. but belong to a couple of groups
[21:59]  Dash Renoir: they seems pretty active ...check the groups in my profile
[21:59]  You: ok
[22:01]  You: interesting groups your apart of
[22:01]  Dash Renoir: most to run this place
[22:01]  You: is this place yours?
[22:01]  Dash Renoir: yes
[22:01]  You: wow
[22:01]  You: how did you start it?
[22:02]  Dash Renoir: came his to promote my music & band...
[22:02]  Dash Renoir: did a few gigs
[22:02]  Dash Renoir: learned how to buid
[22:02]  Dash Renoir: build
[22:02]  Dash Renoir: open this six months ago
[22:03]  You: is it popular?
[22:03]  Dash Renoir: so far
[22:03]  You: i really like it
[22:03]  You: glad i found it
[22:04]  You: anytthing cool coming up this weekend?
[22:04]  You: my class is meeting on 2nd life i should bring them here
[22:04]  Dash Renoir: me 2... you'll get event notices from group
[22:04]  Dash Renoir: @ http://Calendar.theMMAC.net has all activities...
[22:04]  Dash Renoir: will be updating it tonight
[22:05]  You: im taking a look
[22:06]  You: what kind of films do you typically screen?
[22:06]  Dash Renoir: indie shorts
[22:07]  You: made in sl or rl?
[22:07]  Dash Renoir: rl
[22:07]  Dash Renoir: playing in cinema now
[22:08]  You: what kind of films do you make?
[22:08]  Dash Renoir: indies and industrials around nyc http://myspace.com/chucksfilmservics
[22:08]  Dash Renoir: http://myspace.com/chucksfilmservices
[22:09]  Dash Renoir: corrected
[22:10]  You: oh your east coast too
[22:10]  Dash Renoir: nj/nyc
[22:10]  You: im in nyc
[22:11]  You: i'm a grad student thats why i'm on sl
[22:11]  You: doing research
[22:11]  You: about machinima....not sure what angle yet..
[22:11]  Dash Renoir: for?
[22:11]  Dash Renoir: oh
[22:12]  You: seems like a lot of people are doing it
[22:12]  Dash Renoir: you should join the groups... they have screenings and festival
[22:12]  You: yea i joined a few that were in your profile
[22:12]  Dash Renoir: eventually will screen it here
[22:13]  Dash Renoir: well getting late 4 me... have a couple of thing to do b4 bed...
[22:13]  Dash Renoir: stop by anything...
[22:13]  You: yea no problem
[22:13]  You: i will stop by
[22:13]  You: thanks dash
[22:13]  Dash Renoir: take care
[22:13]  You: ciao
                      

10.17

19:28]  Kamran Talaj: if you type in machinima in search, you'll find some amazing stuff
[19:28]  You: i want to do something i can use
[19:29]  Kamran Talaj: there is entire film production world
[19:29]  You: i know its overwhelming
[19:30]  Kamran Talaj: well -- write out a draft proposal and we can talk about it in class and afterwards via email, etc

10.18

[22:47]  You: hi
[22:47]  Enniv Zarf: hi
[22:47]  Enniv Zarf: hi mirra
[22:48]  Enniv Zarf: i'm in costume right now actually...lol
[22:48]  Enniv Zarf: not my normal wardrope
[22:48]  You: lol
[22:48]  You: whats it for?
[22:48]  Enniv Zarf: my new series
[22:48]  Enniv Zarf gave you Krystal Traveler Poster.
[22:49]  Enniv Zarf: this one
[22:49]  You: so your shooting now?
[22:49]  You: i mean within these next few weeks...
[22:49]  Enniv Zarf: i have been
[22:49]  Enniv Zarf: about half done
[22:49]  Enniv Zarf: having an actress in town dto do one of the voice tomorrow
[22:49]  Enniv Zarf: i'm doing one myself
[22:50]  You: so where do you shoot?
[22:50]  Enniv Zarf: everywhere
[22:50]  Enniv Zarf: i use both my own set and exisitng places in SL
[22:50]  You: where is your set?
[22:50]  Enniv Zarf: my place
[22:51]  Enniv Zarf: somewhere up in the sky
[22:51]  Enniv Zarf: i have a part of my set there
[22:51]  Enniv Zarf: but I'm also shooting it at my home and other places that I have too
[22:51]  You: what day are you shooting next?
[22:52]  Enniv Zarf: haha...anytiime I feel like it, throughout the day
[22:52]  Enniv Zarf: a few hours here and there
[22:53]  You: would you mind if i observed you shoot one of these days?
[22:53]  You: or like helped out
[22:53]  Enniv Zarf: sure, though you probably won't see much, cause most people can't tell I'm even shooting
[22:54]  You: lol
[22:54]  You: its brilliant
[22:54]  You: i would like to
[22:55]  Enniv Zarf: hehe...sure, I don't mind if you like to come along or something, probably can use some other av in some sceen here and there
[22:55]  You: thats great
[22:56]  Enniv Zarf: :) so have you tried shooting anything?
[22:56]  You: i did a while ago...and when i did my computer crashed...
[22:56]  You: or sl
[22:56]  You: i mean
[22:56]  Enniv Zarf: ic, what program did you use
[22:57]  You: ?
[22:57]  You: im not sure
[22:57]  Enniv Zarf: to make the machinima?
[22:57]  Enniv Zarf: or did you use the build in tool in SL
[22:57]  You: it must have been the build in tool
[22:58]  You: what are the other opttions?
[22:58]  You: options?
[22:58]  Enniv Zarf: depends, my recommendation on PC is Fraps
[22:58]  Enniv Zarf: and on Mac is SnapzPro
[22:59]  You: where do you get them
[22:59]  You: do you use a mac or pc?
[22:59]  Enniv Zarf: mac
[22:59]  Enniv Zarf: you'll have to buy them, but they have free trial version to test out
[23:00]  You: i should look into that
[23:00]  You: i use a mac too
[23:00]  Enniv Zarf: then try snapzPro
[23:01]  Enniv Zarf: there's another one, but it didn't workw ell on my comp
[23:01]  Enniv Zarf: so I had to use snapzpro
[23:01]  You: yea i need to get something i want to shoot in here
[23:01]  You: it looks fun
[23:02]  Enniv Zarf: it is a lot of fun
[23:02]  You: have you been here before?
[23:02]  Enniv Zarf: and there's so much possibilities here
[23:04]  You: so what day do you think your shooting next?
[23:05]  Enniv Zarf: probably later tonight I'll grab some more shots
[23:05]  Enniv Zarf: i'm juust caught in a few IMs right now
[23:05]  You: oh ok
[23:05]  You: well message me when your going to shoot i will try and come meet you even though i'm on east coast time
[23:06]  You: :)
[23:06]  Enniv Zarf: ah, ic
[23:06]  Enniv Zarf: sure, i'll do that
[23:07]  Enniv Zarf: should be able to catch me for sure, cause I have now another commercial to make
[23:07]  You: commercial for what?
[23:08]  Enniv Zarf: for a really awesome friend of mine
[23:08]  Enniv Zarf: he developed a lsl script that will revolutionize SL media
[23:08]  Enniv Zarf: it allows the land to stream multiple media streams without going through the land stream
[23:08]  Enniv Zarf: different people can watch different things at the same time
[23:08]  You: wow
[23:09]  You: im not getting the extent of it but that's only because i'm new
[23:09]  You: i made this account in april and then moved abroad
[23:09]  You: and then started using it again in september
[23:10]  Enniv Zarf: ah, ic
[23:10]  Enniv Zarf: hehe...well it's somethign tons of people wanted, and no one has been able to do
[23:11]  You: it sounds really cool
[23:11]  You: i'm glad we chatted and thanks for talking to me about this stuff
[23:12]  You: i will definitely come on one of your shoots soon...
[23:12]  Enniv Zarf: np, if you ever have any questions, feel free to IM me
[23:12]  You: thanks enniv
[23:12]  You: i will contact you soon
[23:12]  Enniv Zarf: cool
[23:12]  Enniv Zarf: i'll ttyl
[23:12]  You: and i will let people know about your blog
[23:12]  Thanasi Spinotti is Online
[23:12]  Enniv Zarf: thanks
[23:12]  You: byeee
[23:12]  Enniv Zarf: bye

10.23

[21:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: done any shooting this week?
[21:48]  Enniv Zarf: no, i'm actually waiting for some new equipment b efore continuing
[21:49]  Enniv Zarf: should be ready in a day or so
[21:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: ohh like what
[21:49]  Enniv Zarf: a joystick flycam ability
[21:49]  Enniv Zarf: to do moving shots
[21:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh weird how do you get that?
[21:50]  Enniv Zarf: well for PC most joysticks works, 3dConnection's spacenavi, but for mac it's still questionable
[21:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: ahhh so only on PC
[21:51]  Enniv Zarf: for the most part yes
[21:51]  Enniv Zarf: there are people working on it for macs
[21:51]  Enniv Zarf: nothing official has been released
[21:51]  Mirra Fredriksson: so your maybe shooting tomorrow?
[21:51]  Enniv Zarf: maybe, need to get my equipment
[21:51]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok
[21:51]  Enniv Zarf: keep checking back with me
[21:52]  Mirra Fredriksson: i will
[21:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: I am doing this research on machinima like I said before but I am keeping a blog and I was wondering if it's okay to talk about your blog on there and your avatar so people can check it out to learn more
[21:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: or i mean your site
[21:54]  Enniv Zarf: of course, thats' great
[21:54]  Enniv Zarf: let me know if you need anything
[21:55]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea i think it can be really cool
[21:55]  Mirra Fredriksson: trying to spread the word on my research and what i find/who I run into and what their doing
[21:56]  Enniv Zarf: awesome
[21:58]  Mirra Fredriksson: what are you up to on sl tonight?
[21:59]  Enniv Zarf: working on some graphics for some people
[21:59]  Enniv Zarf: nothing much beyond that
[21:59]  Mirra Fredriksson: i liked the piano the other day
[21:59]  Mirra Fredriksson: it was cool
[22:00]  Enniv Zarf: ty, i do that rather often in SL
[22:00]  Mirra Fredriksson: it was very interesting
[22:01]  Enniv Zarf: i try to do interesting work in SL
[22:02]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea it seems like it
[22:03]  Enniv Zarf: :) well I gotta go for a bit. i'll ttyl
[22:03]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok
[22:03]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye :)

I updated my flickr with photos that are relevant to machinima in particular. 

Check out the set....

http://flickr.com/photos/19935814@N08/sets/72157603182039882/

We continued reading Shaviro this week and it was nice to continue the book after we had our discussion on the first part of the text.  I ended up making note on sections that dealt with Castells, memetic theory, and Cyberspace.  I must have found some overlaps with the texts on ebay...

http://flickr.com/photos/19935814@N08/