Various Chats November

Lots of interesting stuff happening this month.  Met HVX Silverstar and she has talked with me about various things that peak my interest. 

11.7

[19:05]  Mirra Fredriksson: hey dash do you remember me?
[19:06]  Dash Renoir: hi
[19:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: we  talked about machinima once
[19:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: i'm a researcher
[19:06]  Dash Renoir: yes
[19:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: how does one submit work to mmac?
[19:07]  Dash Renoir: i have an open booking policy
[19:07]  Dash Renoir: i accept shorts anytime
[19:07]  Dash Renoir: just need a quicktime file or link to downloadable at file....
[19:08]  Dash Renoir: prefer  15fps 352x240 rez
[19:08]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool. do you decide when it plays?
[19:09]  Dash Renoir: yes
[19:09]  Dash Renoir: it's usually put in cinema SL for on demand viewing & similarly @ www.TheFilmLink.com
[19:10]  Mirra Fredriksson: what is cinema sl a venue? and how long does it stay up?
[19:11]  Dash Renoir: yes The Film Link Screening Room cinema in on the second level in the MMAC
[19:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: are there any night dedicated to shorts?
[19:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: that you know of....or dedicated to machinima
[19:12]  Dash Renoir: there is shorts discussion event on wednesdays
[19:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: at MMAC?
[19:13]  Dash Renoir: yes ...
[19:13]  Dash Renoir: excuse for a few...
[19:13]  Dash Renoir: need to do some show chores
[19:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok
[19:28]  Mirra Fredriksson: dash dont waant to bother you but where can i send the quicktime when i get it together
[19:28]  Dash Renoir: submits@TheFilmLink.com
[19:30]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok thanks...we will talk soon

[[19:13]  Geuis Dassin: hey guys, quick thing if you use the 3DConnexion space navigator. If you have any problems with it behaving erratically, update your drivers and reboot. Recalbrate the controller too.
[19:14]  Mirra Fredriksson: hey geuis do you know of any machinima events in sl?
[19:15]  Mirra Fredriksson: or does anyone?
[19:15]  Agnesa Capalini: HVX Silverstar is giving a beginning machinima class this Saturday, 10am-12 SL time
[19:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh cool agnesa...can you IM me with the info?
[19:16]  Geuis Dassin: none that I know, but ask Moo Money. She's definitely on top of that
[19:17]  Mirra Fredriksson: thanks geuis
[19:20]  Agnesa Capalini: Mirra, its going to be located at the Machinima Institute, ALA Arts In, Infoisland  (217,178'
[19:21]  Mirra Fredriksson: thanks agnesa.  do i have to sign up?
[19:21]  Agnesa Capalini: I don't think you have to sign up, but she may want to make sure you have what's necessary load on your PC
[19:23]  Agnesa Capalini: hello Mirra, are you there?
[19:23]  Mirra Fredriksson: i have a mac does that matter?
[19:24]  Agnesa Capalini: my pc keeps giving me error messages ...hope you are hearing me
[19:24]  Mirra Fredriksson: me too
[19:25]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you do machinima?
[19:25]  Agnesa Capalini: I'm just starting to learn
[19:26]  Mirra Fredriksson: very cool
[19:26]  Geuis Dassin: anyone have a technical explanation for what direct zoom in the flycam is doing to the camera?
[19:26]  Robertz Sparrow: I've been doing Machinima for 5 years!, always good fun
[19:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: wow robertz thats a long time ...i am researching it trying to look more...
[19:27]  Geuis Dassin: rob, what platform did you get started in?
[19:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: good question
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: Ah cool, i started around when medal of honour came
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: then bf1942
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: going with Rooster teeth to the game convention PAX in seatle next year to promote Machinima there
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: setting up a panel
[19:28]  Robertz Sparrow: just been to the Machinima Awards, which was excellent!
[19:29]  Geuis Dassin: I just got my nomination letter in the mail yesterday
[19:29]  Geuis Dassin: didnt even know they were sending one.
[19:29]  Agnesa Capalini: wonderful
[19:29]  Robertz Sparrow: for what comp?
[19:29]  Geuis Dassin: You Hypocrite You
[19:29]  Mirra Fredriksson: robertz would you say machinima is really active here?
[19:30]  Robertz Sparrow: Not as much as it could be
[19:30]  Geuis Dassin: was up for the commercial category
[19:30]  Robertz Sparrow: example is the machinima section of the fourms
[19:30]  Mirra Fredriksson: was it ever?
[19:31]  Robertz Sparrow: i've not been in SL from the begining to say how it used to be
[19:31]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok
[19:31]  Robertz Sparrow: i film in other games atm - www.litfusefilms.com - if you want to have a look or if it helps in your report
[19:32]  Robertz Sparrow: SL atm i find a tad laggy and hard to film in places
[19:32]  Robertz Sparrow: but i dunno, might be me
[19:32]  Mirra Fredriksson: in all machinima is it never possible for others to see what one is filming?
[19:32]  Agnesa Capalini: no, I don't its you....we
[19:32]  Robertz Sparrow: like live?
[19:32]  Agnesa Capalini: we're all having problems with the lag
[19:33]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea live
[19:33]  Robertz Sparrow: well you can use programs as wirecast
[19:33]  Robertz Sparrow: to broadcast live of what you're viewing on your screen
[19:33]  Robertz Sparrow: but i only see the point of that for live news or interviews
[19:33]  Agnesa Capalini: does it cost a lot
[19:34]  Mirra Fredriksson: where does it broadcast?
[19:34]  Robertz Sparrow: to a private server you can host/buy
[19:34]  Geuis Dassin: hmm, usually the recording part isn't something most people would find interesting. I find I cut out at least 50-75% of the raw video I capture
[19:34]  Mirra Fredriksson: i think it would be cool to see what people are filming if you are with them on the pot
[19:34]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah, i film with fraps, and as Geuis said, most of it is cut out at the final edit
[19:34]  Mirra Fredriksson: like if its a collab
[19:34]  Robertz Sparrow: well you got to take in lag
[19:35]  Robertz Sparrow: and programs running in the background
[19:35]  Mirra Fredriksson: spot*
[19:35]  Geuis Dassin: actually mirra, I have a prototype device that lets you share your camera view with others
[19:35]  Geuis Dassin: live
[19:35]  Matthew Kidomen: you say you cut so much percentage, do you story board your videos ahead of time?
[19:35]  Geuis Dassin: its pretty lag-free
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah Matthew
[19:36]  Matthew Kidomen: and you still toss so much.  wow.
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: plan for extras and sets
[19:36]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh thats cool geuis...what is that?
[19:36]  Geuis Dassin: mat, even with a storyboard, alot of the video is start/stops, SL hiccups, etc
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: well some shots can be long or shots you don't really need or errors
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: i work in the film industry in real life
[19:36]  Robertz Sparrow: is my job
[19:37]  Robertz Sparrow: stuff they scribble off the board is amazing, due to costs/types of shots etc
[19:37]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: Geuis, which drivers, the £DConnexions or the thrid part driver? TO get flycam working in new veiwer?
[19:37]  Robertz Sparrow: same for SL filming really
[19:37]  Geuis Dassin: I dont really have a name for it Mirra. Im thinking of making it into a tour guide type system, but have thought it has filming potentials
[19:37]  Matthew Kidomen: are you able to make joystick mode work?
[19:37]  Geuis Dassin: ram, I was referring to the standard 3d connexion drivers
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: Ok thanks
[19:38]  Mirra Fredriksson: good idea geuis
[19:38]  Geuis Dassin: I dont use the 3rd party drivers
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: oh
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: ?
[19:38]  Geuis Dassin: you mean the 3rd party drivers for the spacenavigator?
[19:38]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: yes
[19:39]  Geuis Dassin: yeah I dont use them. I get by just fine with the company-supported drivers
[19:39]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: I had to use them to get it work on mine in SL
[19:39]  Geuis Dassin: win or mac?
[19:39]  Matthew Kidomen: Robertz......are you able to make joystick mode work?
[19:39]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you guys show your machinima in sl?
[19:39]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah
[19:39]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: MInd you that was ahile ago maybe i dont need them now either
[19:39]  Robertz Sparrow: i use a 360 style controller
[19:39]  RamessesIII Pharaoh checks the website....
[19:40]  Robertz Sparrow: is a speed link
[19:40]  Matthew Kidomen: I don't know what that is?
[19:40]  Geuis Dassin: hey rob, have you tried the space navigator? I bought it last month on moo's recommendation
[19:41]  Mirra Fredriksson: there should be machinima meetings in sl
[19:41]  Anya Ristow: The new drivers work fine. Two links...
[19:41]  Anya Ristow: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Flycam
[19:41]  Robertz Sparrow: no, what im using is perfect
[19:41]  Anya Ristow: http://teneverse.blogspot.com/2007/07/blog-post.html
[19:41]  Robertz Sparrow: i'm using this for flycam -
[19:41]  Robertz Sparrow: http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3507653/Speed-Link-XBOX-360-Style-USB-Gamepad-For-Windows-With-Force-Vibration-Black/Product.html#
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: been really good
[19:42]  Geuis Dassin: nice. can't beat it for 15 pounds
[19:42]  Matthew Kidomen: looking now
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: aye, free delivery!
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: bish bash bosh
[19:42]  Matthew Kidomen: game pad
[19:42]  Robertz Sparrow: yep
[19:42]  Geuis Dassin: Ive been designing a flycam recorder too here in SL
[19:42]  Matthew Kidomen: wow, I have this massive joy stick
[19:42]  Geuis Dassin: it 95% works, just been ironing bugs out of the playback
[19:43]  Matthew Kidomen: but canot get it to work
[19:43]  Robertz Sparrow: lol matt
[19:43]  Robertz Sparrow: Don't u use Fraps Geuis?
[19:43]  Geuis Dassin: sure do
[19:43]  Robertz Sparrow: aye
[19:43]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: That would be good like a stored flight path
[19:43]  Matthew Kidomen: live and learn.  I guess the is the point of a Machinimatographers group
[19:44]  Mirra Fredriksson: would any of you guys mind if I IMed you to ask questions while i'm researching?
[19:44]  Geuis Dassin: yeah Ram. lots more flexibility than the existing Filming Path system
[19:44]  Robertz Sparrow: Sure Mirra
[19:44]  Geuis Dassin: who you writing for mirra?
[19:44]  Mirra Fredriksson: thanks robertz
[19:45]  Geuis Dassin: robertz, you involved in the Civil Protection series, or is that a separate HL2 project from what you are doing?
[19:45]  Mirra Fredriksson: no one im a graduate student in new york...i study film and video in rl and wanted to research this for a class im taking called autoethnography
[19:46]  Matthew Kidomen: I wonder if my playstation controller will work?
[19:46]  Matthew Kidomen: it is USB I think
[19:46]  Robertz Sparrow: That's a separate hl2 project, we do Combine Nation
[19:46]  Robertz Sparrow: was asked to to the G-Man voices for it thou! lol
[19:46]  Robertz Sparrow: for CP
[19:46]  Geuis Dassin: interesting. autoethnology(looking up)
[19:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: not ethnology ethnography
[19:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea super interesting
[19:47]  Geuis Dassin: I need to take some time later to watch your work
[19:47]  Mirra Fredriksson: its a form of research anthropology based
[19:47]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you guys have work online?
[19:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: im thinking of showing my rl video work in sl...haven't made machinima yet
[19:48]  Geuis Dassin: some of my previous films from early this year, http://mannea.blip.tv
[19:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: i will look them up
[19:51]  Mirra Fredriksson: this is lagging geuis
[19:51]  Robertz Sparrow: I'm off lads and lasses
[19:51]  Robertz Sparrow: take care all
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: later rob
[19:51]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: OK, does anybody know of a camera tool that will switch between different avatars viewpoints , preferably using shortcut keys?
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: whats laggin?
[19:51]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye robertz~
[19:51]  Robertz Sparrow: bye
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: haha ram, lemme drop you another thiing Ive been working on
[19:51]  Geuis Dassin: Ive been busy recently =)
[19:51]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: You have thought of everything
[19:52]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: It seems
[19:52]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea geuis!
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: ooh new toy.....
[19:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: Ram you have a mac or pc?
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: PC
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: well both
[19:53]  RamessesIII Pharaoh: but mainly PC
[19:54]  Mirra Fredriksson: i wonder which is  better
[19:54]  Mirra Fredriksson: i have a mac
[19:58]  Matthew Kidomen: I just watched the Ignis Solus Machinima on YouTube.  It was listed as "poor quality" video.  It looked great.
[19:59]  Matthew Kidomen: The editing was good, and the graphics wonderful, story line was thin.  Still well done.
[19:59]  Moriz Gupte: url/
[19:59]  Moriz Gupte: url?
[20:00]  Matthew Kidomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_aGQyFETU
[20:00]  Geuis Dassin: watch the Divx version. you'll see the difference
[20:00]  Matthew Kidomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_aGQyFETU
[20:00]  Moriz Gupte: thanks
[20:01]  Matthew Kidomen: the Dvix version is ......better?
[20:02]  Geuis Dassin: a preschool drawing of the Mona Lisa done in yellow and red crayon and covered in glitter and elmer's glue would be a better version than Youtube
[20:02]  Matthew Kidomen: What do you use to make the mouth move to match the words in "Combin Nation: Do your part."
[20:03]  Geuis Dassin: robert left
[20:03]  Matthew Kidomen: Is that Robert's work?
[20:03]  Geuis Dassin: combine nation is, from what he said
[20:04]  Matthew Kidomen: I wonder what he uses to capture his video?
[20:04]  Geuis Dassin: fraps
[20:04]  Matthew Kidomen: Fraps works very well.
[20:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: does anyone use snapzpro is that bad?
[20:07]  Geuis Dassin: thats one of the recommended programs for macs
[20:07]  Geuis Dassin: FRAPS is windows
[20:08]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh ok

[19:56]  Mirra Fredriksson: where do you hang out on sl?
[19:59]  Geuis Dassin: I generally just stay at my store area and build things
[19:59]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh cool you have a store?
[20:00]  Mirra Fredriksson: building seems interesting
[20:05]  Mirra Fredriksson: geuis do you sell stuff at your store?
[20:06]  Geuis Dassin: yah
[20:06]  Mirra Fredriksson: what kinds of stuff
[20:09]  Mirra Fredriksson: i just TPed there...what is this? haha
[20:09]  Geuis Dassin: hmm?
[20:09]  Geuis Dassin: variety of things
[20:09]  Geuis Dassin: filming path is one of the main machinima tools most people use
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: camtp is a teleport toy
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: applause box is used for live events, so crowds can appaluse just by clicking. you can try the demo
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: boo box does the same thing, but for booing, beacon sends an slurl to someone by just saying their name
[20:10]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool stuff
[20:10]  Geuis Dassin: some eyewear I made, doesnt sell well
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: what does filming path do
[20:11]  Geuis Dassin: and Motor Mouth is my most recent device, which listens to SLvoice and makes the avatar talk
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: hahah
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool
[20:11]  Geuis Dassin: filming path is a camera dolly system
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: i dont really like the slvoice thing it freaks me out
[20:11]  Mirra Fredriksson: it feels strange to hear peoples voices
[20:12]  Geuis Dassin: if you watch the video there, that was a music video I made that was nominated at the european machinima festival
[20:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: oh cool!
[20:12]  Geuis Dassin: it uses filming path for certain camera moves
[20:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: i will watch it
[20:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: maybe i can meet your av?
[20:14]  Mirra Fredriksson: who is this band?
[20:16]  Geuis Dassin: its an Atlanta, GA band called What the ???
[20:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: was this filmed in sl?
[20:16]  Geuis Dassin: yep
[20:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: its great
[20:17]  Mirra Fredriksson: you must do video in rl
[20:18]  Geuis Dassin: actually, I am a web designer
[20:18]  Geuis Dassin: doing video is only amature
[20:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: someone just came in here and then left
[20:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: lol
[20:18]  Geuis Dassin: yeah, that happens
[20:19]  Mirra Fredriksson: when did you make that?
[20:19]  Geuis Dassin: april I think
[20:19]  Mirra Fredriksson: how long have you been doing this stuff?
[20:19]  Geuis Dassin: about a year
[20:22]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you mind if i ask how old you are?
[20:22]  Mirra Fredriksson: im 26
[20:22]  Geuis Dassin: 27
[20:22]  Mirra Fredriksson: it seems like all age ranges do machinima
[20:24]  Geuis Dassin: yah
[20:26]  Mirra Fredriksson: well thanks for chatting with me...maybe next time we can chat in "person"
[20:27]  Geuis Dassin: sure
[20:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: cool i'll IM you soon once i brush up on basic stuff lol
[20:27]  Geuis Dassin: sure thing
[20:27]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye geuis

11.9

[12:40]  Mirra Fredriksson: Hi I heard that you are giving a machinima class tomorrow and I am interested in coming...Can you give me more info?
[12:40]  HVX Silverstar: Hi there... yes
[12:40]  Mirra Fredriksson: Sorry was't sure if you are online...i'm Mirra a graduate student in New York and i'm researching machinima in SL
[12:40]  HVX Silverstar: ALA Arts InfoIsland, Machinima Institute 179/150/31/ WHAT? Introduction to Machinima Session - Hands-on Using the built-in file   start/stop movie to disk. We will be trying out the keyboard shortcuts and using the camera tool to set up and  shoot short video clips. WHEN? Saturday, Nov. 10, 10:00 - 11:30 AM SLT WHERE? ALA Arts InfoIsland - 179, 150, 31 WHAT DO I NEED: SOFTWARE? You will need to have the latest version of Quicktime Player loaded on your computer: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/
[12:41]  Mirra Fredriksson: Thank you
[12:41]  Mirra Fredriksson: I heard the built in machinima doesn't work...is that true?  I was going to dl snapzpro...
[12:41]  HVX Silverstar: it will be basic... everyone trying to capture a clip using browser shortcuts etc
[12:42]  HVX Silverstar: I gave you a notecard too
[12:42]  Mirra Fredriksson: yes got the notecard...what exactly is the machinima institute?
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: it's a place that is on one of the Second Life Library partner islands.. I am one of the librarians and i provide intro sessions on machnima and teach for the Univ. of Il Urbana Champagne virtual world librarianship class.. so it is basic
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: Are you an educator or librarian?
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: You don't have to be.. just wondering. It's open to the public as all library services are here
[12:44]  Mirra Fredriksson: I am a student at The New School University
[12:44]  HVX Silverstar: I am looking for volunteers if you are interested
[12:45]  HVX Silverstar: is that in NY?  the music school?
[12:45]  Mirra Fredriksson: It is in New York it's comprised of 7 schools the jazz school is one
[12:46]  HVX Silverstar: cool... I knew one of the students last year.. I think he has transferred.. Colin Borges from Davis, CA.. jazz saxophone
[12:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: Oh yes I see that your based in Davis
[12:46]  HVX Silverstar: my daughter was in the Davis High Jazz Band for years and now studies trombone at UCLA
[12:46]  HVX Silverstar: yea
[12:46]  Mirra Fredriksson: I am acturally from Northern California
[12:47]  HVX Silverstar: very cool.. we may know some people in common.. do you know Sam Dickey or David Okeefe (Berklee School)
[12:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: know im not a musician hvx just an enthusiast.  I am in the video and film department at New School.
[12:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: :)
[12:48]  Mirra Fredriksson: no*
[12:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: media studies major
[12:49]  HVX Silverstar: so cool.. you are welcome to come to the class and help out in any way... could use filmmakers to do instruction here.. there is such an interest
[12:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: i would love to help out
[12:49]  Mirra Fredriksson: i am very new to machinima
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: I am self-taught and it fell out of video I did for the Davis Bands (on google video)
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: great...
[12:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: very interested though
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: I am on a lot of the time, otherwise I am on the teen grid
[12:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you think that machinima is big in SL?  Some people I talked to said it could be more active...
[12:50]  HVX Silverstar: Huge
[12:50]  Mirra Fredriksson: thats good to know
[12:51]  HVX Silverstar: well, people are using the space to create films due to the intellectual property rights - filmmakers  can retain them whereas they can't in many game spaces
[12:51]  HVX Silverstar: It could be way more prominant...
[12:52]  HVX Silverstar: I am interested in live broadcasting and will use it in that way ... coming up
[12:52]  Mirra Fredriksson: very interesting
[12:52]  HVX Silverstar: I will be applying for a grant to help with it
[12:52]  Mirra Fredriksson: i would like to hear more about it
[12:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: and i will come on saturday
[12:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: but is that true about the built in machinima?  could i use snapzpro?
[12:53]  Mirra Fredriksson: im on a mac
[12:54]  HVX Silverstar: I have about 4 service learning project proposals out to the San Jose State Univ Grad School of Library Science... so you can work on something similar if you are interested..
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: I can talk to you about it on the weekend..
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: i'm at work now and have to run....
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: Our univ is not involved in SL except for capturing 2D images for marketing, etc
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: ha
[12:55]  HVX Silverstar: too bad
[12:55]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok no problem...I will come on Saturday and help out if I can and we can talk then
[12:56]  HVX Silverstar: Sounds good..
[12:56]  HVX Silverstar: bye
[12:56]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye and thanks

11.11

[12:10]  Mirra Fredriksson: Hi Robertz...do you have a link to your machinima?
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: Hi
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: yeah
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: www.litfusefilms.com
[12:10]  Robertz Sparrow: then movies
[12:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: is this your website?
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: yes
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: My name is Robert Stoneman
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: in rl
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: and on site
[12:12]  Mirra Fredriksson: are you American?
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: We are a group of Machinima makers, i have a team
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: no English
[12:12]  Robertz Sparrow: UK
[12:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: London?
[12:13]  Robertz Sparrow: Near yes
[12:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: are you making anything now?
[12:13]  Robertz Sparrow: Machinima wise? yes
[12:13]  Mirra Fredriksson: can you share
[12:14]  Robertz Sparrow: Why
[12:14]  Mirra Fredriksson: im just curious as to what its about
[12:14]  Robertz Sparrow: ah, filming an advert for BNT holdings then doing a short film in sl
[12:14]  Robertz Sparrow: just location/prop hunting now
[12:15]  Mirra Fredriksson: when do you think you will shoot in sl?
[12:15]  Robertz Sparrow: I'm not sure yet, depends
[12:15]  Mirra Fredriksson: im trying to find people that shoot in SL and asking them if I can just watch...even any of the pre-production aspect
[12:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: have you been to the machinima institute?
[12:16]  Robertz Sparrow: in sl?
[12:16]  Mirra Fredriksson: yea
[12:17]  Robertz Sparrow: no
[12:17]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you talk to many other machinima people on here?
[12:17]  Robertz Sparrow: ye
[12:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: do you know HVX?
[12:18]  Robertz Sparrow: that a nick name?
[12:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: the avatar name
[12:18]  Robertz Sparrow: no
[12:18]  Mirra Fredriksson: she's interesting....she did a basic machinima class yesterday but she is a librarian in RL and uses machinima in that way...
[12:19]  Robertz Sparrow: nice

11.12

[20:22]  HVX Silverstar: (Saved Mon Nov 12 13:00:04 2007) Hi Mirra.. yes, I will be on today in case you are around.  We can chat as I am doing things.. have to move the Machinima Institute to a new location.
[20:25]  Mirra Fredriksson: HVX thanks for the group mail...the log looks amazing!
[20:27]  HVX Silverstar: HVX Silverstar: Oh, you are welcome... it was so hard to read so i thought i would try something different... I see that i missed a lot of comments.. so hard to get them all
[20:28]  Mirra Fredriksson: it is but you did a great job.  wish i didn't crash.  i kind of got lost for a second.  Where are you moving the institute?
[20:29]  HVX Silverstar: well, i'm here now at Eduisland 208, 55, 23.. but it's so laggy that i have asked for another location.. so it may end up on cybrary city
[20:29]  Mirra Fredriksson: if you need any help or anything let me know
[20:30]  Mirra Fredriksson: i have been talking to some people about machinima...some don't know about the institute...is it new?
[20:30]  HVX Silverstar: yes, whenever you see me on, you can just come over and help... i'm going to eat dinner with my husband right now, but then i'll be back.
[20:31]  HVX Silverstar: no, it has been around since about March last year.. I used to do classes April, June...
[20:31]  HVX Silverstar: and then supervised the san jose state univ service learning projects for the Lib246 Master in Library Science program.... so we ended up with some great exhibits
[20:32]  Mirra Fredriksson: ok if i see you when you get back we will chat
[20:33]  Mirra Fredriksson: im on frequently and i have a blog and i'm going to present at my school in december...and i'm going to let people know abou tthe institute (or i have)
[20:34]  HVX Silverstar: cool, so you can be a volunteer (like me) and you'll have more to present... very cool.. it's like a job at least in terms of gaining experienc e in other areas...
[20:34]  HVX Silverstar: I have purchased a live video feed.. a lot of money... and will be playing with it soon... veodia professional account
[20:35]  HVX Silverstar: i will be trying to get a grant to subsidize it.. so i'll let you know how it goes
[20:35]  Mirra Fredriksson: wow sounds exciting...please do and if you have any office hours tomorrow or wed i would like to talk av to av haha
[20:36]  HVX Silverstar: yes, i am usually on in the evenings about 7-10 PDT
[20:36]  HVX Silverstar: PM
[20:36]  HVX Silverstar: not all the time though.. as i have a family.. ha
[20:37]  HVX Silverstar: talk to you soon
[20:37]  Mirra Fredriksson: bye